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28 April 2008 @ 04:26 pm
The Formative Years ~ When were you first corrupted?  
Lets set the record straight, ladies. When were you first corrupted? If we're all honest with ourselves, children aren't as innocent as we make them out to be. They're curious, just like us, and for many of us that curiosity never quite goes away. mere_ubumade a post earlier today requesting Victorian porn recs, which made me reflect on my earliest introductions to erotica. I'll admit, I was always a rather precocious child, sticking my nose into everything, and rather well-versed in the basics of sex and reproduction before I graduated elementary school. Bless the NYC public school system for that boon. 

I can't honestly remember the absolute first time I encountered explicit sex in literature, but I know it was certainly part of my literary intake by the time I was 12. Orwell's 1984 gave me one of my first taste of illicit, dirtybadwrong or the thought police are gonna get ya sex with dear Winston and Julia. Judy Bloom's Forever also didn't spare much detail when it came to young love and blossoming sexuality either. It was also around this time that I started first reading fanfiction in the Batman fandom and was taking in much dirtier slash and het fics with my favorite superhoes Batman, Catwoman, Nightwing, and Oracle. I very clearly remember printing off a fantastic story by Jody Revenson called simply "Nightwing and Oracle", bringing it to school, and circulating it around to my pals with eager relish. Yeah, I was that kid. I also clearly recall finding a busted up and well-worn copy of Lawrence's "Lady Chatterley's Lover" tucked into a bookcase in the summer house we rent in Cape Cod. There were many a covert evening where I slunk low on the coach devouring the tale of prissy Connie and darling Mellors. Actually, now that I think about it, that relationship was somewhat analogous to Buffy and Spike's. Hm...
 
Once I got to high school, I remember falling love with the "free love" Heinlein portrayed between Mars-native Valentine Michael Smith in "Stranger in a Strange Land." His follow-up "Time Enough For Love" with eternal Lazarus Long also spared no detail to his numerous affairs with the many women in his life, including his own mother and progeny. When I was 15, a friend of mine bought me Anne Rice's "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty" triology. That definately raised the bar from erotic love and sex to full on kink, check your consent and safe words at the door, please. And after that, I was never the same... Or more accurately, soon I started reading fiction in the Buffy fandom and we sure do like our smexing here, don't we? 

So, I've shown you mine. Wanna show me yours? What erotica, literature, or other media ushered you into the land of the perverse?      
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Sevensevendeadlyfun on April 28th, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
It was a copy of Penthouse Forum one of my uncles left in the bathroom. I was eight or nine, if memory serves. That was roughly the same time a friend of mine snuck her parents' copy of The Joy of Sex to school. I still remember those pencil drawings and being creeped out by all the hair...this was the Seventies version. Following that up, not too many years later with (dun da duh!) The Sleeping Beauty series, which I swear is like a must-read on every mildly kinky person's past list.

So yeah...erotica, porn, and I go waaaaay back which may help explain why I'm the co-mod of a kink comm. :)
ClawofCat: bringmepornclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:27 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if it was The Joy of Sex, but a friend of mine in high school was getting rid of a bunch of books for her mom and handed off this Betty Dodsen-esque self-love paperback to me. I had recently bought BtVS and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale and had been reading both of them in bed. I left the room to go to the bathroom, tucked them under my pillow and when I came back my mom was hanging out. I forgot they were there, but when she shifted to get more comfortable she discovered them. She said nothing about the Buffy book, but when she saw the self-love one, much to my horror, she commentd, "I would have thought you'd have figured it out by now." *snerk* I was mortified.

Based on comments to this thread, it seems like Sleeping Beauty was part of every kinky persons early staple diet.

Actually, you know what could be a fun extended challenge at feedmykink? Recreate a favorite kinky scene from film or literature with your characters of choice. I always did fancy that part in the second Sleeping Beauty book when they stuffed her full of fruit and the prince had to eat it out of her...
Sevensevendeadlyfun on May 1st, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)
I always did fancy that part in the second Sleeping Beauty book when they stuffed her full of fruit and the prince had to eat it out of her...

Well you do have 90 days of open posting access. So if you were interested in writing that, it would totally be allowed under your *supastah* status... :)
willow_25willow_25 on April 28th, 2008 09:18 pm (UTC)
I tend to find things randomly that lead me to other things.
Being bored and grabbing 'grown up' books from my mother got me the romance novels of Kathleen Woodewiss when I was in 5th grade.
My 7th grade teacher gave me a copy of 'Sons & Lovers' because I was bored and had read everything else she had laying around. 'The Witching Hour' when I was in 8th grade was my mother's fault as well, and about that time I 'borrowed' some Anais Nin short stories from my father's collection.
Looking for episode spoilers led me to X-Files fanfic in high school, which led me to Nicholson Baker (as well as porn-ier fanfic), and The Vampire Chronicles led me to The Sleeping Beauty trilogy. Buffy fanfic led me to more vampire romance novels and vampire porn.
Since you mentioned it, I do remember 1984's treatment of sex affecting me strongly at the time, although if you hadn't I probably would have forgotten that one.
ClawofCat: got ecstasyclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:31 pm (UTC)
LOL. Porn seems to have a domino effect, doesn't it? One things just leads to another ;)

I actually haven't read most of the books you listed, though I do recognize the titles. Might be good a good list to draw on for beach reading this summer. It's also interesting that most of us had our sexual awakening at around 10-12, usually because we discovered a naughty book around the house.
Tam: Skull crowtamakin on April 28th, 2008 10:11 pm (UTC)
Heeehehehe this is right interestin! :D Weeeeeeeeeell the first book i read that made me go HOLY TITMOUSE BATMAN was the Clan of the Cavebear series by Jean M Auel. Like, whoa! I remember reading those when i was just starting secondary school, and reading things like "engorged member" and "pulsating manhood" with eyes like saucers. lol! Oh those cavemen, they sure did hump a lot :P Twas sex-ed with plot!
botiasbotias on April 28th, 2008 10:32 pm (UTC)
You too?! :D
Tamtamakin on April 29th, 2008 01:45 pm (UTC)
LOL! Yeaaah, so those books have opened the eyes of many lil kiddies then? *snigger*
botiasbotias on April 29th, 2008 02:51 pm (UTC)
I think they were huge bestsellers in their day, so they probably introduced caveman porn into many a household.
ClawofCat: think sexclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:35 pm (UTC)
LOL. Holy titmouse, Batman. *snerk* Yeah, the romance novel-esque language of quivering love-channels and engorged members certainly do make you go o.O. Looking back now, that's the sort of language we generally ascribe to "bad" fanfic. How ironic...

I've never read Clan of the Cavebear, but I remember wanting to see the movie because I loved Daryl Hannah. Maybe I should put that on my Netflix queue. Yay sex!
Tam: Skull crowtamakin on April 30th, 2008 10:16 pm (UTC)
LMAO "quivering love-channels"!! Oh dear god thats all kinds of smulch :P

Hee i do really recommend those books hun! Theres a whole series, which er.. kinda decrease in goodness as they progress, imo, BUT the first 3 books are just fantastic. Ive read em about 4 times since, and enjoyed them everytime. :) Id personally recommend the books above the movie, cause the movie is kinda old now, with alot of the plot missing or changed.
eowyn_315: big giant headeowyn_315 on April 28th, 2008 10:27 pm (UTC)
I'd have to say it was probably fanfic, and not until I was in college. I've never had much exposure to erotica or explicit sex outside of fanfic. I might have been interested if I'd known what was out there, but I was naive enough not to know where to look. (I am, however, slightly proud of the fact that the sex ed book my mother got for me was banned from the library.)

In fact, I read fanfic in high school, but the ratings were always PG-13 or at max just barely pushing an R. It wasn't until I was searching for West Wing fanfic in college that I discovered the explicit stuff. And it wasn't until I started on Buffy that I read anything really kinky.

Maybe that's why I'm much less porn and kink oriented than the rest of you. *shrug*
ClawofCat: faith dirtymindclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:40 pm (UTC)
I've never had much exposure to erotica or explicit sex outside of fanfic.
Hm, curious. The only reason this perks my interest is because a lot of the books people listed are well-known novels that you'd likely be exposed to in school or on a summer reading list. That was certainly true in my case. I can't remember, but did you go to Catholic school?

the sex ed book my mother got for me was banned from the library
Aw, that's a shame. Who knows how many kids would have actually benefited from it, especially all the safe-sex chapters I'm sure it had.

Maybe that's why I'm much less porn and kink oriented than the rest of you.
It does appear that corruption at any early age certainly is a factor. You dodged the bullet, E!
eowyn_315: Buffy libraryeowyn_315 on April 30th, 2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
Nope, I went to public school. I guess we just never had the porny books on our reading list. :) Also, we don't have a personal library in which to hide the dirty books. In fact, that's maybe a big factor - my parents don't own a lot of books, period. My dad doesn't really read for fun, and my mom's a huge proponent of the public library (she won't read a book twice, so why waste the money on buying them?). So it's not like they had a stash of books to root through - we always went to the library, where it's much more daunting to find the dirty stuff.
botiasbotias on April 28th, 2008 10:30 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, I'm thinking for me it was 5th grade, 10yo.

First explicit sex scene - 10yo: Jean M. Auel's Valley of the Horses
First kink - 12yo: A Bertrice Small kink-fest bodice ripper
Next runner-up kink - early 20s: Anne Rice's "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty"

The Buffy fandom has really put a polish on things now in my thirties. Fans of the show with the No. 1 hottest TV sex scene of all time... they do like their porn, yes they do. It has caused me to look at a number of things in a whole new way. I'm a new woman. :P
ClawofCat: good timesclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
Heh heh, I love all the commonalities that are cropping up on everyone's lists. Jean Auel and The Sleeping Beauty books seem to have gotten into many a curious child's hands. Interesting that everyone remembers quite well which books made such an impression on them.

has caused me to look at a number of things in a whole new way. I'm a new woman.
Buffy: heralding the sexual reawakening of women everywhere. Three cheers!
Sotiassddgr on April 29th, 2008 06:24 am (UTC)
Ummm, I remember finding a book called '365 positions' or something in our summer house library when I was eleven. Don't know if it would be considered 'literature', probably not, but it made me search the library better and come up with 'The Story of 'O''. To say I was shocked would be an understatement but you should have seen the look on my mom's face when she found the book in my bedside drawer. *giggles*

Fanfic only came to my life this past summer and I can safely say that I've read more sex in the months since then than in all of my previous life.

*sighs* I love fanfic :-D
ClawofCat: special hellclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:50 pm (UTC)
*gasp* The summer house library strikes again. All sorts of dirty things lurking in the dark recesses of the bookshelves. I was rather appreciative of that myself ;) Though I don't think I ever came across the Kama Sutra. If I wanted that, I just went on little mini fieldtrips after school to Barnes & Noble. Nothing like a bookstore to help fill your kinky needs.

I've never read The Story of O, but good old de Sade really had a hand for the perverse. Have you ever seen Quills? In high school I was so in love with that movie and Geoffrey Rush for his performance.

I can safely say that I've read more sex in the months since then than in all of my previous life.
Fanfic: the ultimate corruptor! We do have some very creative people cooking up the kink for our reading pleasure. It's pretty awesome.
(Anonymous) on April 29th, 2008 10:21 am (UTC)
roger rabbit's girlfriend when I was five. It's true.
ClawofCat: onyourkneesclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
Nothing wrong with Jessica Rabbit, leggy dame that she is. She's quite the sex kitten. Also, Kathleen Turner's smoky voice is way hot. I love it that "patty cake" is like boning for toons in that movie. Kinky!

"I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way." Hee!
hello_spikeyhello_spikey on April 29th, 2008 01:00 pm (UTC)
My dad was an art student and had a book entitled "Erotic Art" that was on the very top shelf of the bookshelf. Well, obviously that had to come down! My sister and my best friend and I were caught flipping through it in her sandbox. We were mesmerized, especially, I remember, by the freaky wrong Japanese prints with giant penises and lovingly rendered vaginas. (I remember not knowing the word 'vagina' yet!)

ClawofCat: trust meclawofcat on April 30th, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC)
What is it with parents hiding the dirty books on the top shelf? That's the first place kiddies look! I found a paperback on erotic massage (illustrated!) once when I went digging around at home.

Oh yeah, those Ukiyo-e Japanese prints are dirty! But totally mesmerizing. I had a friend in elementary school that oscillated between saying "fagina" and "pagina." After awhile I became rather exasperated trying to correct her and just gave up.
mere ubu: spike pornmere_ubu on May 1st, 2008 11:31 pm (UTC)
OMG, my feeelthy books arrived today and I remembered that I never commented here, but I meant to! It's a great question.

My parents were very generous with the sex ed books in a repressive neighborhood, so my sibs and I were the kids you would ask if you wanted straightforward biological info.

My brother is ten years older than me, so there were always girlie mags galore under his bed along with a stack of Penthouse Forums. Probably the dirtiest thing he had was a book about a series of encounters between Marilyn Chambers and Xaviera Hollander. Whoa! I was in about fourth grade when I started surreptitiously borrowing things from his collection. My older sister had Judy Blume's Forever, and my mom confiscated no fewer than three copies of it over the years. Smut Patrol!

I was also expert at finding the naughty bits in the many novels lying around the house. Someone is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe and Ken Follett's Eye of the Needle are ones that I recall sneaking off the shelf and smuggling off to my room. (Also, it was easy to find the "good" parts of novels, because my siblings had been there before me and the book would usually fall open to those pages!) In junior high, I would read Anais Nin's Delta of Venus at the downtown library but didn't have the guts to check it out. The first smut I ever bought on my own (I was seventeen) was The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty, a volume of Herotica, and a compilation of Victorian porn.

My consumption of commercially published erotica has gone waaaay down since I found fanfic. Who needs it when there are so many talented perverts on the internets? :D
ClawofCat: bringmepornclawofcat on May 2nd, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC)
Sweet! Which filthy books did you end up ordering? The one rec'd by philips and herself?

My older sister had Judy Blume's Forever, and my mom confiscated no fewer than three copies of it over the years.
Either your sis, your mom, or both were incredibly persistant. That's hilarious. I remember always trying to squirrel my dirty books away in draws, mischellaneous piles, or under the radiator (which probably wasn't very good for the books). Not sure if my mom ever unearthed them, but it's likely.

I was also expert at finding the naughty bits in the many novels lying around the house.
Omg, me too! You can always find something raunchy. I used to vacation in Cape Cod with a friend of mine. Every time we went to the supermarket with our parents, we'd disappear and sneek off to the book aisle that had a whole wall of romance novels. It was our goal to find the raunchy bits. Pages 100 and 150 were always good places to start.

I think it's funny how there is such an air of covert sneakiness surrounding the procurring of dirty material at young ages. Better watch out, Ms. Mere. Z's coming up on that age. Lock up the books, quick!
mere ubu: btvs:spike-pantsmere_ubu on May 4th, 2008 02:41 am (UTC)
Bwahaaaa! I lurrrve that icon!!

Yep, I got The Romance of Lust and Sex and the Slayer. I wanted more Victorian stuff, but everything else I wanted seemed to be out of stock.*sheepish* I ended up with the more contemporary Naughty Spanking Stories from A to Z. Miss Murchison recommended some Victorian slash that's definitely going on the wishlist too.

Yes, "persistent" would describe both of them; they're just alike! There was also a Cheech & Chong album of which my mom confiscated at least two copies.

I love that you had a system for finding the smut. *snickers* Page 100!

ZOMG, I am sooo locking up the smut! I have a locked cabinet and a locked drawer. I figure that if she ever gets into them, it won't be until she's a devious teenager hellbent on invading my privacy. *fingers crossed* I'm really just hoping she'll be like her father, who has no talent for sneakiness.